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Re: Mass shooting in Chicago
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:30 pm
by Toldyouso
RPlant wrote: ↑Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:27 am
Toldyouso wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:28 am
RPlant wrote: ↑Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:29 am
FIFY
Are you also blaming leadership in Indiana for the skyrocketing gun violence in Peoria?
You are deflecting again. How about you start posting stats on Gary, INDIANA as well? You know, that part of Chicago, that's really not Chicago.
http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Gary-Indiana.html
Nothing is stopping you from starting a new thread.
Re: Mass shooting in Chicago
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:30 pm
by Toldyouso
Nov 5, 2021 / 09:09 PM CDT
CHICAGO — A 4-year-old boy was injured in a shooting in the city’s South Chicago neighborhood Friday afternoon, according to police.
Police said the boy was shot in the 8300 block of South Saginaw Avenue at approximately 5:45 p.m. and sustained wounds to the right thigh, left thigh and hand.
The boy was taken to South Shore Hospital in good condition and was later transferred to Comer Children’s Hospital.
Community activist Andrew Holmes said the boy was riding in his car seat at the time of the shooting.
“It takes a fool to keep discharging these weapons, we can’t keep saying over and over again, we’re tired, put the guns down,” Holmes said.
The shooting is under investigation by Area Two detectives and no one is in custody.
Re: Mass shooting in Chicago
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:30 pm
by RPlant
@Toldyouso, interesting.
Their guns fueled Chicago crime. When they broke the law, the ATF went easy.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/their ... be8e7a1c3d
Over the last two decades, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives let some of the Midwest's most notorious gun sellers off the hook for serious violations of federal law, including selling to straw purchasers, transferring guns without background checks and doctoring sales records.
The Trace, a nonprofit newsroom, and USA TODAY obtained ATF inspection records for 13 gun dealers singled out by the city of Chicago as suppliers of a disproportionate number of guns used in city crimes. The records show the agency found more than 120 violations of the federal Gun Control Act of 1968 at these stores. Only one store passed its inspection with no violations.
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In 2017, on the heels of a record-breaking surge in homicides in Chicago, then-Mayor Rahm Emanuel published a sweeping Gun Trace Report, which identified the sellers of thousands of guns recovered by Chicago police between 2013 and 2016. It showed nearly 1 in 4 guns picked up by city police came from just 10 stores located across Illinois and northern Indiana. The top three stores together accounted for some 2,000 crime guns.
The Trace and USA TODAY requested inspection documents for the gun dealers named in this report. They reveal the ATF routinely issued softer penalties than warranted under agency guidelines when it discovered violations at these stores — in step with a pattern of conciliatory inspections the media organizations first uncovered last year.
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Re: Mass shooting in Chicago
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:30 pm
by Tazewell
RPlant wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:05 am
It showed nearly 1 in 4 guns picked up by city police came from just 10 stores located across Illinois and northern Indiana.
What's your Leftist excuse for the other 3 in 4 guns and the crimes committed with them?
Also from the article:
Blythe said in his 38 years at the helm of his store, opened by his father in 1952, he turned away hundreds of suspected straw buyers every year, and shared information about those buyers with nearby gun stores to ensure the sellers weren’t able to buy elsewhere.
“But what I can’t control is what happens to our guns after we sell them,” he said. “Let’s say we sell this gun to a 75-year-old guy who wants it for home protection. When he dies, his kids come in and they sell his gun. Now the gun is out there as a secondhand purchase, but if it's recovered from a crime scene, it gets traced back to us. How do you control that?”
He added that he supports requiring private sellers to file paperwork with the federal government for every sale so that transfers on the secondary market can be tracked.
Re: Mass shooting in Chicago
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:30 pm
by AV8R
How many gun shops fall within the radius of the 10 gun shops cited in the report and what are the annual sales of each shop? For someone so concerned with “base rate error” this study could most certainly be plagued by it. Critical information is missing, most likely because it would not support the narrative.
Re: Mass shooting in Chicago
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:30 pm
by AV8R
Why did you give my post a thumbs down @RPlant? There was no personal attack, do you just hate being called out that much? If you just want an echo chamber to shout into, stay on PDC. You’re not getting one here.
Re: Mass shooting in Chicago
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:30 pm
by RPlant
AV8R wrote: ↑Tue Apr 12, 2022 1:10 pm
Why did you give my post a thumbs down @RPlant? There was no personal attack, do you just hate being called out that much? If you just want an echo chamber to shout into, stay on PDC. You’re not getting one here.
Sensitive much? And here we have
@AV8R's typical attack on opinions that vary from his. The last I checked, the use of the "post" emojis is still allowed on WaP.
We get your tired old argument, "guns don't kill people. People kill people". Neglecting the obvious enablers, who continue to break Federal law and make a handsome profit off of death and violence.
Re: Mass shooting in Chicago
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:30 pm
by AV8R
RPlant wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 4:54 am
And here we have @AV8R's typical attack on opinions that vary from his.
More projection. Typical.
Re: Mass shooting in Chicago
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:30 pm
by RPlant
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